Comments on: The IT Job Market Sucks!! http://www.crustyorange.com/2008/10/28/the-it-job-market-sucks/ Wed, 21 Dec 2011 14:14:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: ITsucks http://www.crustyorange.com/2008/10/28/the-it-job-market-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-16296 ITsucks Wed, 07 Dec 2011 00:51:24 +0000 http://www.crustyorange.com/?p=28#comment-16296 IT is the worst field I've worked in. I used to work in Biology and sometimes wish I stayed. Coworkers are out to get each other and bosses are out to work you to death for peanuts. I have background in hardware, networking and systems. The hardware jobs don't pay and the networking jobs want you to work a 70 hr a week schedule for 50,000 a year. So that comes out to about 7.75 an hour and your doctor bills will take up all of that. I am definitely getting out of this field. IT is the worst field I’ve worked in. I used to work in Biology and sometimes wish I stayed. Coworkers are out to get each other and bosses are out to work you to death for peanuts. I have background in hardware, networking and systems. The hardware jobs don’t pay and the networking jobs want you to work a 70 hr a week schedule for 50,000 a year. So that comes out to about 7.75 an hour and your doctor bills will take up all of that. I am definitely getting out of this field.

]]> By: Alcatraz80 http://www.crustyorange.com/2008/10/28/the-it-job-market-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-2064 Alcatraz80 Sat, 21 Aug 2010 12:47:27 +0000 http://www.crustyorange.com/?p=28#comment-2064 As an IT professional (Sr. Systems Analyst) for the past six plus years, I have never seen things this bad. I have a good job, but have been looking to relocate for about 6 months now, and it is one ugly and unjust market. The longer that I search, the fewer jobs that I see. I'm appalled when I see a database admin position posted at 21k per year....that's less than middle management makes at a Walmart, or Burger King. We are being forced into lower and lower wages with more and more responsibility due to a bad market. As an IT professional (Sr. Systems Analyst) for the past six plus years, I have never seen things this bad. I have a good job, but have been looking to relocate for about 6 months now, and it is one ugly and unjust market. The longer that I search, the fewer jobs that I see. I’m appalled when I see a database admin position posted at 21k per year….that’s less than middle management makes at a Walmart, or Burger King. We are being forced into lower and lower wages with more and more responsibility due to a bad market.

]]> By: Misanthropist http://www.crustyorange.com/2008/10/28/the-it-job-market-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-1667 Misanthropist Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:35:49 +0000 http://www.crustyorange.com/?p=28#comment-1667 The IT job market sucks for a number of reasons, some mentioned already. One thing I find annoying is the preponderance of contract jobs. There is a disconnect between academia and the professional world that used to be bridged by corporate training. On-the-job training seems to really be a thing of the past. Now you're brought in with expectations of a certain minimum skill set, to perform a specific task, then they're done with you and you search for someone else who wants to buy your labor commodity. If you're established in a certain niche, this can work out well for you. But if you're coming from outside, such as a recent graduate, it can be hard to break in. The old adage says "you gotta pay your dues" but the trouble seems to be that there's fewer and fewer places to actually pay those dues, because those places would just rather hire a contractor who's already an expert. It can also be very easy to become typecast in the IT field. In my junior year of college I took an internship doing system admin and help desk type work, and ended up accepting a full time job there when I graduated. Heck, the pay was good and I liked the company, so why not? Flash forward 6 years later and I've progressed little in terms of my applied skill set, and am now further removed from the freshness of my academic experience. A lose-lose prospect, aside from being a comfortable job with good benefits. Golden handcuffs. But, even in searching for another job I now feel typecast as a Help Desk and System Admin type because that's what my resumé post-college is built upon. I don't know the best way to break into software development, always my true interest, because very few places are looking to direct-hire entry level programmers and no one really cares that you completed academic software projects 6 years ago. I guess I just need to build some experience developing little throw-away apps on my own time. I'm also starting to feel like going all "Office Space" and just ditching the computer field entirely. The IT job market sucks for a number of reasons, some mentioned already. One thing I find annoying is the preponderance of contract jobs. There is a disconnect between academia and the professional world that used to be bridged by corporate training. On-the-job training seems to really be a thing of the past. Now you’re brought in with expectations of a certain minimum skill set, to perform a specific task, then they’re done with you and you search for someone else who wants to buy your labor commodity. If you’re established in a certain niche, this can work out well for you. But if you’re coming from outside, such as a recent graduate, it can be hard to break in. The old adage says “you gotta pay your dues” but the trouble seems to be that there’s fewer and fewer places to actually pay those dues, because those places would just rather hire a contractor who’s already an expert.

It can also be very easy to become typecast in the IT field. In my junior year of college I took an internship doing system admin and help desk type work, and ended up accepting a full time job there when I graduated. Heck, the pay was good and I liked the company, so why not? Flash forward 6 years later and I’ve progressed little in terms of my applied skill set, and am now further removed from the freshness of my academic experience. A lose-lose prospect, aside from being a comfortable job with good benefits. Golden handcuffs. But, even in searching for another job I now feel typecast as a Help Desk and System Admin type because that’s what my resumé post-college is built upon. I don’t know the best way to break into software development, always my true interest, because very few places are looking to direct-hire entry level programmers and no one really cares that you completed academic software projects 6 years ago. I guess I just need to build some experience developing little throw-away apps on my own time. I’m also starting to feel like going all “Office Space” and just ditching the computer field entirely.

]]> By: Same ol' shit http://www.crustyorange.com/2008/10/28/the-it-job-market-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-745 Same ol' shit Wed, 27 Jan 2010 23:56:28 +0000 http://www.crustyorange.com/?p=28#comment-745 I was working for a shitty little company that cut me for a few dollars savings. They can't all get the work they need done now and I can't go back cause the a-holes are too proud to admit they fucked up. I've been looking for work for almost 3 months. No hope in sight. I'm thinking that the IT field is a bad place to be because the dipshits that screen and the upper managers making the call to hire don't know and never really knew what it really is that we in the IT filed actually do. They also don't seem to have a clue about what it takes to get there.....pffft! Minimum wage my ASS! I was working for a shitty little company that cut me for a few dollars savings. They can’t all get the work they need done now and I can’t go back cause the a-holes are too proud to admit they fucked up.
I’ve been looking for work for almost 3 months. No hope in sight. I’m thinking that the IT field is a bad place to be because the dipshits that screen and the upper managers making the call to hire don’t know and never really knew what it really is that we in the IT filed actually do. They also don’t seem to have a clue about what it takes to get there…..pffft! Minimum wage my ASS!

]]> By: screwd patriot http://www.crustyorange.com/2008/10/28/the-it-job-market-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-406 screwd patriot Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:28:02 +0000 http://www.crustyorange.com/?p=28#comment-406 I was working in telecom until uncle sam said..."go to war or go to jail". I was going to go to iraq for 15 months. I had no choice had to drop everything and leave. Finally i got back, and everything(promotion structure, titles, pay grades) including first line management was replaced at my former job. I had no reason to stay because it was going to be as if i had never been there....start from scratch. I started grad-school full time. Now I graduated 2.5 months ago with a 3.8 GPA in IT mgmt Systems...and nobody wants to even interview me.... I was working in telecom until uncle sam said…”go to war or go to jail”. I was going to go to iraq for 15 months. I had no choice had to drop everything and leave.
Finally i got back, and everything(promotion structure, titles, pay grades) including first line management was replaced at my former job. I had no reason to stay because it was going to be as if i had never been there….start from scratch. I started grad-school full time. Now I graduated 2.5 months ago with a 3.8 GPA in IT mgmt Systems…and nobody wants to even interview me….

]]> By: Spuds http://www.crustyorange.com/2008/10/28/the-it-job-market-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-369 Spuds Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:13:29 +0000 http://www.crustyorange.com/?p=28#comment-369 Start your business and grab the 'ethical' market share...a vertical model nobody in IT is targeting. Start your business and grab the ‘ethical’ market share…a vertical model nobody in IT is targeting.

]]> By: Daryl Basarab http://www.crustyorange.com/2008/10/28/the-it-job-market-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-203 Daryl Basarab Sun, 08 Feb 2009 23:57:52 +0000 http://www.crustyorange.com/?p=28#comment-203 The IT market is horrible. The hiring managers don't know what they are talking about, and they don't understand that someone who has the aptitude can learn what they need to know. If you know business and you know the basics of technology, then it is all about transferrable skills and the ability to learn new material and apply them to business ends. But the clowns who hire new employees look for a laundry list of material learned beforehand, and therefore they miss the point. IT is about business and you can’t know the individual business process beforehand, but they expect you to. Critical thinking skills make someone a good programmer/analyst, but hiring managers would rather hire a paper tiger. The Wright brother didn't have a license to fly airplanes, but nobody will even give you a chance if you don't have 500 years of experience. I’ve been out of work for 9 months. 9 MONTHS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 9 LONG GD MONTHS! I graduated and nobody gave me the slightest chance. The next group of graduates will graduate, people who slacked off and took 5 years instead of 4 to graduate, and this darn American economy will still have failed to give me a flipping chance. The IT market is horrible. The hiring managers don’t know what they are talking about, and they don’t understand that someone who has the aptitude can learn what they need to know. If you know business and you know the basics of technology, then it is all about transferrable skills and the ability to learn new material and apply them to business ends. But the clowns who hire new employees look for a laundry list of material learned beforehand, and therefore they miss the point. IT is about business and you can’t know the individual business process beforehand, but they expect you to. Critical thinking skills make someone a good programmer/analyst, but hiring managers would rather hire a paper tiger. The Wright brother didn’t have a license to fly airplanes, but nobody will even give you a chance if you don’t have 500 years of experience.

I’ve been out of work for 9 months. 9 MONTHS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 9 LONG GD MONTHS! I graduated and nobody gave me the slightest chance. The next group of graduates will graduate, people who slacked off and took 5 years instead of 4 to graduate, and this darn American economy will still have failed to give me a flipping chance.

]]> By: John http://www.crustyorange.com/2008/10/28/the-it-job-market-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-184 John Sun, 09 Nov 2008 08:24:44 +0000 http://www.crustyorange.com/?p=28#comment-184 I'm not a programmer I'm a technician doing mostly Windows desktop support and things are looking pretty bad. It seems like everybody wants you to know everything under the sun and pay you $15 per hour. After 10 years doing computer support I am for the first time thinking of seriously abandoning this business, unless you have the ability to work for yourself it's an uphill climb. I’m not a programmer I’m a technician doing mostly Windows desktop support and things are looking pretty bad. It seems like everybody wants you to know everything under the sun and pay you $15 per hour. After 10 years doing computer support I am for the first time thinking of seriously abandoning this business, unless you have the ability to work for yourself it’s an uphill climb.

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